Tuesday, September 3, 2013

Kerry and Dempsey Take Obama's Chemical Weapons Case to Congress

We are now watching the unfolding in the US Congress of the tragi-comedy surrounding President Obama's indecisive posturing in the face of the al-Assad attack on Syrian civilians that left an estimated 1300 dead, including more than 400 children. The US military is reported to be hesitant to agree with President Barack Obama's plan to launch a missile strike on Syria as a warning that the world means to enforce the non-use of chemical weapons as set out in the international treaty. Current and former officers have said in interviews that they are uneasy about a potential Syrian missile strike because it could have unintended consequences, such as turning attention away from their exit from Afghanistan, the Washington Post has reported. Some military officials worry about retaliation from the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, which supports Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, while others fear ripple effects that could include Iran following through on its threat to attack Israel, retaliation from radical groups, or the US being charged with war crimes." The application of force rarely produces and, in fact, maybe never produces the outcome we seek," General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said in an interview with ABC News in August. Active-duty military leaders have said they feel strongly that a strike in Syria would serve no purpose for the US. "What is the political end state we’re trying to achieve?" one retired senior officer involved in Middle East operational planning asked. "I don’t know what it is. We say it’s not regime change. If it’s punishment, there are other ways to punish." An Army lieutenant colonel told the Washington Post : "When a president draws a red line, for better or worse, it’s policy,...It cannot appear to be scared or tepid. Remember, with respect to policy choices concerning Syria, we are discussing degrees of bad and worse." But General Dempsey has assured President Obama that the US military is ready to follow orders and has ships, missiles and an aircraft carrier in the eastern Mediterranean on daily alert. ~~~~~ Dear readers, the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee is now holding hearings to question Secretary of State John Kerry and General Dempsey. The hearings will continue tomorrow in a closed session to discuss classified information. While it is not yet clear how the Senate or the House will vote, the concerns are clear and almost universally.held. First, no one wants to become embroiled in another Middle East ground war. Second, there is general agreement that al-Assad has used chemical weapons. Third, members of Congress have heard from their constituents that they do not trust the information being provided by the President and do not understand why America should have to carry this burden instead of regional nations. Fourth, the unintended consequences of a missile attack could be grave, including a nuclear attack on Israel by Iran and increased Russian support for al-Assad. Fifth, Russia and China should be exposed to the full weight of worldwide disgust for their positions in support of al-Assad which mean that they do not care about, or even agree with, the use of chemical weapons. ~~~~~ Thomas Jefferson said that the legislature (Congress) must have the power to declare war because the executive branch (the President) will always go to war more readily than the legislative branch. That idea was enshrined in the Constitution but the Congress later gave the President the power to engage in actions that do not constitute full-blown war. That division of the power to declare war or take lesser war-like action is at the constitutional heart of what we are now watching. Congress had ceded some of its power to the President and the current President, Barack Obama, seems to be in the process of trying to give that power back to Congress. Stay tuned.

8 comments:

  1. From the true believer in the phrase ...'Words have meanings" so I assert that action then also has meaning. If all you readers of this fine Blog will grant me that for a second - then what action are we going to take (please Mr.President tells us and use only the truth not explanations that have cracks wide enough to drive a tractor trailer truck through or have a fall back phrase like "depends on what IS means") against what action that threatens any other nation or region of nations EXCEPT THE NATION OF SYRIA.

    I feel for those 400 or so children who died at Assad hands. I have held many (way too many) dead and dying children that simply got in the way of opposing forces or were used as shields from us, or were in villages that were sympathetic to us and not the rebels, etc. I sat there so they wouldn't be alone at that time of passing, with no regards to my safety at all.

    I mention this only to establish my decency I guess. I am against killing NON combatants, especially those to small to be yet a combatant.

    So the "amateur video" released today of this killing field someplace in Damascus, Syria for the sake of discussion is authentic (although it looks very directed and erroneous in specific areas). What except the removal of Assad and his complete government (which is an abomination of the word government)does Obama hope to obtain with his ALL air, NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND few day strike against Assad. The same Assad who have the military might and friendly other help that could sink the USS Nimitz or any other ship under our registry that is presently in the area.

    Tell us mr. President what do you want, for how long and to what end. And please don't use the line "We'll have to fight the war first in order to see what we can get out of it"

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  2. “The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.”
    ― G.K. Chesterton

    This is a simple truth. We don't fight a war for what is in front of us, or what we think is in front of us. But a war to protect what we have/had, what we grew up with, what we hold dear and cherish, what made us what we are today.

    Now that is the stuff a real skirmish should and could be called a war.

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  3. Since I was born the USA has been engaged in some 14 conflicts and full blown wars. We have lost far too many young men and women to these fights against evil and depravity. But we keep fighting them because that’s what we do for those citizens that are oppressed and in slavery to the lunatic socialists’ leaders.

    And it seems that we are headed down this path again. I hope it is based in the clear cut longing for the preservation of what we want for those that follow us.

    If we ever slip into the rut of pugnacious hostilities just to think we are conserving the peace, we are in trouble.

    Armed clashes seem to a civilized way of getting rid of the uncivilized reprobates that wish to force their politics upon us.

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  4. Those people who seek peace must realize that this is not a passive thing – it necessitates action. Man’s inhumanity to man is not only perpetrated by the vitriolic actions of those who are bad. It is also perpetrated by the vitiating inaction of those who are good. We need a far more proactive agenda for people. It is not a matter of can we; it’s a matter of do we have the collective will to.

    Steadfast belief in peace, despite lack of support, as Gandhi said, "Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth." While much attention is paid to famous peacemakers in political and religious circles, many of the greatest peacemakers live peace as a lifestyle, such as Thoreau, and impact far greater more than others who end war or oppression.

    To me these are some of the qualities that we are missing today in our political leaders and peacemakers.

    As another commenter has said on these pagers ... "If you want peace talk with your enemy not your friends". I forget who the quote is attributed to. But who are we talking to right now, certainly not our enemies.

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  5. This discussion in Washington DC right now transcends the present administration and goes to the heart of our peaceful, tranquil, festive transition of power that we so enjoy in the US every time there is a change in the presidency.

    What we are doing now will handcuff the next and maybe the next elected president after that hands for conducting their Foreign Policy (hopefully they will have a policy unlike Obama approach).

    What action we agree upon and undertake in the next few days will have ramifications far beyond Syria. Even far beyond the Middle East quiet possibly. We are considering setting a new course ... and for one I am not sure that it is being spelled out properly yet.

    There is nothing wrong with well thought out change. There is disastrous implications down the road for a "knee jerk" reactive change. A broad based alteration of the way we have been doing business needs discussion and more than one presidents wants to be in play.

    The road we travel has many twists and turns to it. If we start to add more at a whims notice it will be difficult to find our way back to the 'Road Well Traveled."

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  6. The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.”
    ― Ayn Rand

    Are we really protecting the minorities, those honest few citizens in Syria that only want to be free and live their secluded lives they way they see fit.

    Or are we actually protecting (in a very disillusioned way)those fundamentalists, those Sharia law advocates who in the end will still be the burden that the minorities in Syria will be suffering under the control of these demons?




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  7. A day may one day come when the courage of men of freedom and human rights fails, when we abandon our friends and break all bonds of camaraderie, but it is not today – NOT WITH ME ANYHOW. No, it is not definitely today! This day we challenge! By all that you cherish on this virtuous Earth, I bid you fight for what you believe to be right and honorable in Syria & the entire region. Be heard over the rhetoric that we are hearing on the radio, TV, in newspapers, etc. Politicians speak most of the time to simply hear themselves, to hear their own voices. And their positions on a subject (any subject) are as stable as a house built on quick sand.

    Call, write, talk to friends, etc. Washington has to know where each and every one of us stands on this question. Our elected officials seem to be basking in the fact that they know more than we do, and understand more than we ever could. It’s time for the students to teach the professors.

    Remember that MOST politicians are self-serving, well-educated individuals who have convinced us that we need them … not they need us. Any person of elite education, somewhat wealthy background that would desire to spend their live as a politician is at time boggling to the mind. Politicians know just what a staff written paper tells them they know. Because they at times latch onto a specific issue of importance – we quickly brand them “experts”.

    Some of my best friends (new and old) were/are politicians. But they are also other things like, lawyer, writers, educators, unpaid fund raisers for various charities, veterans’ programs, etc. They do things. They actually go out and do something for others expecting (not really wanting any) no notoriety or remuneration for their effort.

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  8. For almost 2 years President George W Bush pleaded his case and that of the nation to Congress for approval to enter Iraq. he documented everything, including the attempt on his father's President George H W Bush after he left office. The proof was there for the world and all who wanted to see it. No "classified' cover ups

    With all that in mind we (the USA) still spent 10 years in Iraq.

    What in the heck is this RUSH to JUDGEMENT that Obama is trying to shove down our throats.

    Where is the proof of the Siren gas attack that killed some 1400 people in Syria (including 400 children). Why is it "classified"?

    is this another "get what he wants and who cares what the truth is" routine by Obama? beginning to look that way a little from my vantage point.

    WE NEED TO BE SURE WHAT WE ARE BUYING HERE. And out elected officals need to understand both our wishes and the recourse we have if they violate our confidence.

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