Tuesday, September 22, 2015

Dr. Carson, the Constitution and the Media

Republican presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson has reaffirmed his view that a Moslem should not be President of the United States. Carson started a media firestorm on Sunday when he told Chuck Todd on Meet the Press that he “would not advocate that we put a Moslem in charge of this nation.” Later, Carson told The Hill : "I do not believe Sharia is consistent with the Constitution of this country. Moslems feel that their religion is very much a part of your public life and what you do as a public official, and that’s inconsistent with our principles and our Constitution.” Carson also mentioned "Taqiya," a practice in Shia Islam in which a Moslem apparently can mislead nonbelievers about the nature of their faith to avoid persecution : “Taqiya is a component of Shia that allows, and even encourages you to lie to achieve your goals.” In his own defense, Carson said he is one of the few presidential candidates willing to tell hard truths. Carson said : "We are a different kind of nation. Part of why we rose so quickly is because we wouldn’t allow our values or principles to be supplanted because we were going to be politically correct…part of the problem now is we’re so busy trying to be politically correct (PC), that we lose all perspective.” Carson described Todd's question of a Moslem President asked to all GOP presidential hopefuls who appear on his show as possibly being gotcha journalism meant to trip them up. But, he said the question “served a useful purpose by providing the opportunity to talk about what Sharia is and what their goals are.” ~~~~~ So far, there has been no media discussion of Sharia or Taqiya. But there has been abundant media and candidate misinformation blaming Carson for not understanding the US Constitution, Article VI, Clause 3 : "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." Since Sunday, everyone has attacked Carson using Clause 3, twisting it to mean that the religion of American political candidates cannot be discussed. ~~~~~ This is wrong. Candidate religious views can be discussed. Clause 3 means that local, state or federal government cannot make the practice or non-practice of religion a part of what qualifies or disqualifies an American from running for any office. It also forbids any oath of office that requires or forbids an elected officeholder to swear to adhere to and/or support any religion. Clause 3 was written to prevent in America an 18th century England practice -- that all officeholders and the monarch had to be Anglican and take an oath to support the Anglican Church when being sworn in - still required of the British monarch. ~~~~~ Dear readers, I think Dr. Carson was thinking about the First Amendment separation of church and state -- if a candidate for office cannot separate his or her religion from politics, (s)he should not hold office. But, his detractors missed that and are talking about Clause 3's interdiction of religious tests as a qualification for office. Carson's comments are about whether Moslem dogma on society and religion creates religious obligations that may make Moslems unable to separate the duties of President under the Constitution from their religious duties. In 1960, when critics said his duties as a Catholic could interfere with his presidential obligations, John Kennedy said he couldn't see that happening, but that if it did, he would resign. The debate Dr. Carson has begun is about the religious qualities Americans want in their President and about the First Amendment separation of church and state. A debate about the Clause 3 interdiction of state religious tests for officeholders is not useful - it's settled law. But, First Amendment political issues should not be cut off by media PC constitutional worries.

5 comments:

  1. The simple difference between our Rule of Law and the process that Sharia Law advocates is a different as self-determination and enslavement. And that is what Dr. Carson is questioning.

    Political Correctness (PC) is not in question here, what is through is the right to self-determination of the vast majority of ‘Americans’.

    If you truly believe that PC is a indispensable to democratic equality, a factor that without it brands the American system of government as racists and closed to all except those born here – if one believes that then you have not only no concept of America, but maybe no need to be here.

    Dr. Carson is saying that believe what you want, practice what religion you want, but respect and adhere to the American Rule of Law if you desire to be more than a resident of the greatest country and most open political system ever devised.

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  2. If I were to ever relocate to a country that was as different as humanly possible to the American system, I would do so with the understanding that my belief system, my concept of man and his government had no standing in my new homeland. Just wouldn’t happen friends, and it shouldn’t happen our countries for immigrants.

    People should relocate with the predetermined knowledge and willingness to live and abide by local law keeping their customs, living in ethnic neighborhood, etc., but following established laws.

    And NO principal of Sharia Law fits into the American system. The discussion even the willingness to discuss it is moot. America is not Islamic, doesn’t want to be governed like Islamic autocratic countries.

    Is the real question about why exchange life in one autocratic country with expectations of wanting government as you had it to be viable in your new residence?

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  3. Isn’t Dr. Carson simply pointing out that we have been ‘duped’ by Obama and his inner circle in the worst possible way? We have been lied to and deceived since January 20, 2009 until today with each passing day watching the deception getting less and less camouflaged and more and more treasonous?

    Those socialistic progressives that support PC equality at the expense of the American system are literally too stupid to understand that governed by the simplest of tyrannical and repressive government with a foundation based on Sharia Law would be intolerable to their “openness” of understanding of freedoms.

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  4. Keith Ellison, the country’s first Muslim member of congress, “For Ben Carson, Donald Trump, or any other Republican politician to suggest that someone of any faith is unfit for office is out of touch with who we are as a people,” he wrote.

    Congressman Ellison seems to have who “we” are as a nation all wrong. As Dr. Carson said Sunday on the news programs … “a huge gulf exists between the faith of and actual practice of the Muslim faith, and our Constitution and American values.”

    Dr. Carson is exactly right. And anyone who cannot see the difference needs to spend some time (somewhere else) living under a intolerant law such as Sharia Law.

    The two (2) most prolific examples of religion being questioned in a presidential candidate in the United states is Al Smith, four-time New York governor and the Democratic nominee in 1928 and Senator John Kennedy in 1960.

    The Muslim president Carson said he wouldn’t support might be imaginary or might not be. But the comparison of a Catholic or Mormon to a believer of Sharia Law as the political and/or legal guiding document is so very different. The media doesn’t want to understand that.

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  5. This outrage over Dr. Carson’s speaking his mind and saying just what he would or wouldn’t do on 1 particular question is nothing more than the liberal democratic, left wing, socialist leaning media trying to practice their brand of social engineering.

    When these social engineers see that they are losing the battle for the American voter they resort to just what they accuse the conservative candidates of fear mongering and vitriolic personal attacks.

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